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Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: Jackabo82 on June 04, 2005, 09:07:50 PM
Could somone help me out ?
I'll be needing a new motherboard for Bf2 ,and i dont have a clue about them,or where 2 find them or price them ,Does anybody know a nice suitable 1 ?
Heres what specs i have

pentium 4 cpu 2.50Ghz
ddr 266Mhz ram
Graphics ..n-vidia 5600 ultra ..bus x4

is there any other specs i need ?
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: [TiG]valen on June 04, 2005, 09:35:51 PM
Jack, i am with people at the mo, but i will stagger on later and sort this out m8.

 :salute:
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: tig|Bosco on June 04, 2005, 09:41:18 PM
Upgrading your motherboard to make a faster machine usually means changing your CPU and RAM as well.  What do you want the new board to do that the old one doesn't?
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: Jackabo82 on June 04, 2005, 09:45:43 PM
Hold more than 512 ram ,it has a max limit of 512
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: [TiG]jalls on June 04, 2005, 09:51:27 PM
What cpu/socket do you use?
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: Jackabo82 on June 04, 2005, 09:56:24 PM
i dont know  :oops:
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: [TiG]jalls on June 04, 2005, 10:04:49 PM
oh noes!  :P

Well i think your best buying a motherboard+cpu+fan kit.
normally about ?150 and everything is always compatible


Check out these Bundles.

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/kc.asp?bn=10293

Something like that will suit you great mate.
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: [TiG]jalls on June 04, 2005, 10:10:28 PM
Cant you check the motherboard you have and see what socket it is jack?

its probably 478 socket.

one of these,
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/ABIT_Socket_478.html

You might want to upgrade your graphics card while your at it m8.Battlefield 2 looks mighty pretty.
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: Jackabo82 on June 05, 2005, 12:26:32 AM
CPU
Field   Value
CPU Properties   
CPU Type   Intel Pentium 4, 2500 MHz (25 x 100)
CPU Alias   Northwood, A80532
CPU Stepping   C1
Instruction Set   x86, MMX, SSE, SSE2
Original Clock   2500 MHz
Min / Max CPU Multiplier   25x / 25x
Engineering Sample   No
L1 Trace Cache   12K Instructions
L1 Data Cache   8 KB
L2 Cache   512 KB  (On-Die, ECC, ATC, Full-Speed)
   
CPU Physical Info   
Package Type   478 Pin uPGA
Package Size   3.50 cm x 3.50 cm
Transistors   55 million
Process Technology   6M, 0.13 um, CMOS, Cu, Low-K
Die Size   131 mm2
Core Voltage   1.475 - 1.55 V
I/O Voltage   1.475 - 1.55 V
Typical Power   38.7 - 89.0 W  (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power   49 - 109 W  (depending on clock speed)
   
CPU Manufacturer   
Company Name   Intel Corporation
Product Information   http://www.intel.com/products/browse/processor.htm
   
CPU Utilization   
CPU #1   3 %

MOTHERBOARD
Field   Value
Motherboard Properties   
Motherboard ID   62-1029-001199-00101111-040201-SiS650$NECC000_8SIML V3.0B
Motherboard Name   Gigabyte GA-8SIML
   
Front Side Bus Properties   
Bus Type   Intel NetBurst
Bus Width   64-bit
Real Clock   100 MHz (QDR)
Effective Clock   400 MHz
Bandwidth   3200 MB/s
   
Chipset Bus Properties   
Bus Type   SiS MuTIOL
Bus Width   16-bit
   
Motherboard Physical Info   
CPU Sockets/Slots   1
Expansion Slots   3 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 CNR
RAM Slots   2 DIMM
Integrated Devices   Audio, Video, LAN
Form Factor   Micro ATX
Motherboard Size   230 mm x 240 mm
Motherboard Chipset   SiS650
Extra Features   EasyTune III
   
Motherboard Manufacturer   
Company Name   Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Product Information   http://tw.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_NewProduct_List.htm
BIOS Download   http://tw.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_List.htm
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: =Warmonger= on June 05, 2005, 10:43:04 AM
i am getting the MSI neo platinum i925Xe, thats a cool card.

MSI 925XE Neo Platinium 54G, s775, i925XE, 1066Mhz, 1xPCI-E 16x, 2xPCI-E 1x, 3xPCI, 4xDDR2-667, Audio (8-channel), 1xLan 100, 1xLan 1000, Firewire    

285.00 CHF
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: [GiT]Hellrazer on June 05, 2005, 12:01:07 PM
Jack--Just reading through the cpu support list for that motherboard and it says it can take up to a 3.06 HT cpu.

http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/CPUSupportList/CPUSupportList_GA-8SIMLH-P%20(Rev%204.0).htm

As for ram--if it can take that CPU Im sure a gig of ram and maybe more is a definate yes.Although the motherboard may report only 512 mb ram Windows will give the correct amount.Id say stick in the 1gb see if it works,if not update the bios and you should be fine.
Richie
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: [TiG]valen on June 05, 2005, 12:25:41 PM
I agree with Richie, your cpu at the mo is a P4, so I would put good money on it that it can support at least a gig m8.

Even it it still dosen't work, your still a cunt.  :wink:
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: Jackabo82 on June 05, 2005, 03:22:23 PM
Cheers Lads ,ram should arive 2morrow & i'll give it a go  :wink:
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: Jackabo82 on June 09, 2005, 04:58:52 PM
my 1 Gig O Ram came today and my pc still wont read over 256 a stick.looks like i will have a delay til i get Bf2  :cry:
Anybody know any motherboards that will run with my specs ?...not 2 dear ones also as i cant go over ?100
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: [GiT] Karma on June 09, 2005, 05:04:06 PM
someone correct me if im wrong but you can pick up mb's, half decent ones that is on places like dabs or komplett for between 25 & 40 quid
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: [GIT]Fairy on June 09, 2005, 05:13:37 PM
Yep Karma you sure can.  Ideally Jack if you post up your current config somewhere, ie your gfx card, processor, hd, etc etc, and then ask someone who is up on these things to recommend a new mb you should get one and have change from around ?50.

www.boards.ie has a good PC section, and Data should be able to point you in the right direction.

Have you considered buying a new box with a low end gfx card in it, but with decent ram, nd, and processor and then swop your card and sell your own pc?  You'll get the cost of the new one without any difficulty.

Fairy

[EDIT]

Something like this might sort out your problem Jack.  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52475&item=5205909453&rd=1

AMD Athlon64 3200 processor
1GB DDR RAM
16x Dual Layer DVDRW
ASRock Motherboard
120GB Hard Drive 7200rpm
Integrated Mirage 2 Graphics
6 X USB 2.0 (2 x front 4 x rear)
Eithernet Lan Port (10/100)
6 Channel Sound

Pretty good system for the price.  The graphics is onboard so you could switch this off and stick in your current card.  Lots of us here have old cards that you could stick in your current PC leaving you able to sell it.
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: Jackabo82 on June 09, 2005, 05:35:06 PM
I wish i could Buy That ,but id have 2 save a few months
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: [TiG]Devil_Monkey on June 09, 2005, 07:04:07 PM
Quote from: [TiG] Jackabo
my 1 Gig O Ram came today and my pc still wont read over 256 a stick.looks like i will have a delay til i get Bf2  :cry:
Anybody know any motherboards that will run with my specs ?...not 2 dear ones also as i cant go over ?100

Did you send it back or keep it?
What exactly did you get?
Did you try it in different slots with/without the original RAM?
Is there any way a bit o knowledge could make it work for him lads?
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: tig|Bosco on June 09, 2005, 07:08:05 PM
Flashing the BIOS is the only thing I can think of to try and get the new RAM working on the old board.

Failing that this (http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/components/motherboardsandaccessories/productView.htm?quicklinx=30GY) board @ ?33.99 inc. VAT should suit you Jack.  It's a good brand at a good price.  Specs here (http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=P4S800-MX&langs=09)

It should work with your parts and it also supports newer stuff so if you want to upgrade your CPU or video card within the next year or so this board will allow it.

One thing to check though is whether it will fit into your case.  What brand is your PC?
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: [GiT]Hellrazer on June 09, 2005, 07:10:30 PM
Jack,You try a bios update??From what i see that board should take up to 2 gb ram.

http://www.memoryx.net/gigamome147.html

Are you mixing the ram with your old ram.Try it on its own in slot 0.

Then try slot 1.

Richie
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: Jackabo82 on June 09, 2005, 07:45:07 PM
Bosco..Packard Bell imedia

Hell... aye i tried mixing and changing about ,just cant cope with more than a 256 stick.
when opening up the pc i found that the motherboard name above may be wrong .... i think its a Packard Bell Columbia GX.   :?
Title: MotherBoard Shopping
Post by: tig|Bosco on June 09, 2005, 08:11:28 PM
Packard Bell are unfortunately one of the few manufacturers who have messed with their cases on some of their systems in the past to cut costs and make upgrading and repairing using non Packard Bell parts more difficult.  A common problem to give one example is that the power supply might be mounted in such a way that it gets in the way of the CPU heatsink when it's mounted on a standard board.

That new board follows the Micro ATX standard. You need to find out if your system's case follows this standard in every way before spending any money.  To do this either have someone who knows what to look for check out your case, or failing that post some pictures of the inside and rear of your PC up here so we can have a gawk.