Author Topic: New PC for Gaming (Read 3303 times)

[TiG]Lucutus · « **on:** May 29, 2005, 11:51:09 PM »

lo all,

Tonight, with data's help, I've put together a new rig for games.

I want to try to keep the budget down to under ?1000, but the components are already adding up (even without shipping!). I want the performance, don't plan to overclock.

If you can spare a couple of minutes and have the inclination, pls check out the list and see if you can help me get under budget!

Shuttle SN25P Barebone S939 P-Type nForce4, 2x PCI-E, GbLAN, 350W
http://www.jes.de/
- 374.99 EUR

AMD Venice 3200 (tray)
http://www.jes.de/
- 243.48 EUR

1Gb DDR PC3200 Gold (2-2-2) Dual Channel kit - OCZ
http://www.shop4memory.com/products/ddr-ram.asp
- 199 EUR

HDD SATA 250GB Seagate ST3250823AS
http://www.jes.de/ NCQ
- 121.68 EUR

256MB Sapphire Radeon X800XL PCIe Retail http://www.jes.de/
- 281.90 EUR

NEC 3540A DVD http://www.jes.de/
- 51.60 EUR

Total:
?1272.65

[TiG]jalls · « **Reply #1 on:** May 30, 2005, 12:02:42 AM »

oCZ is overclocking ram as far as a remember?

Do you need it if your not overclocking?

[GiT]Hellrazer · « **Reply #2 on:** May 30, 2005, 09:43:24 AM »

Luc,
Ive sent your list off to my mate.Hes going to compare his prices to what youve got and see if he can come out any cheaper.
Richie

[TiG]JimeatsLans · « **Reply #3 on:** May 30, 2005, 12:51:09 PM »

Did a quick Komplett run...

That x800 card is 245
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=306373&cks=PRL

Thats about it.
Nice price for that ram btw, might invest.

=Warmonger= · « **Reply #4 on:** May 30, 2005, 01:27:24 PM »

right, thats sounds cool but...

you might want to look at this site, http://www.cogestra.com/, its a swiss site and i know the owner very well, he buys at wholesale and sells much cheeper than retali, since you are lookign at a german site for ordering ur bits, the postage will be similar if not cheeper becuase, i might be able to sumuggel the stuff into france and post from there (Eu common markets).

secondly, you might want to rethink some of the bits, in my humbel opinion allthough Intel cpus' are slower, they are also much cheeper and you will be able to get a 3.6Ghz cpu form intel for a similar price to a 2.4 Ghz AMD one.

DDR ram? i can see that u get more DDR ram for ur buck than DDR2, but DDR2 is much faster than DDR. if you look that the site at i gave you, you can get 1Gb of DDR2 ram for the same price!

the GFX card is good, i can see a big price hike between the X800 and the X850, the X850 is better, but if your on a budget, the X850 is a waste of time and is only for bragging rites...

finaly, overclocking. if u want to do this, you will need to het a good fan for the CPU cuz otherwise it will burn, overclocking will bump a 3.8Ghz CPU up to a 4.0 one, the performance will improve but you need the techinque and need to read many reviews before you try it. overclockign will make ur stuff run faster louder and will give you a chance to burn some money if u overclock too much and the stuff dies on you

anyway, thats just what i think, i would look at the site http://www.cogestra.com/ as you will come up with a much better deal. + me doing the smuggeling is a possibility

andy

Anonymous · « **Reply #5 on:** May 31, 2005, 12:15:45 PM »

Quote from: =Warmonger=

get a 3.6Ghz cpu form intel for a similar price to a 2.4 Ghz AMD one

AMD out perform Intel at hertz rating.. also there is a compatability between them that I prefer to work with.. He's not OCing so that doesnt matter..

Shuttle cases are not adequate unless your a major LANer, expensive and more likely to overheat - not to mention the pitiful 350W PSU supplied isn't that powerful considering what your planning to run on it.

=Warmonger= · « **Reply #6 on:** May 31, 2005, 02:46:29 PM »

yeah i knwo this, but there is no need, you might as well have a 3.6 Ghz intel one for cheeper... and there are compatibility errors with windows on some Amd CPU's

tig.bf2|wypoor · « **Reply #7 on:** May 31, 2005, 02:57:14 PM »

I got AMD 2500 XP 1,83 GHz, 2x512 MB Dual, MSI K7N2 Delta, Leadtek WinFast A400 128MB TDH, SB Audigy - that must be good for BF2. After summer I'll change a processor.

=Warmonger= · « **Reply #8 on:** May 31, 2005, 03:15:13 PM »

that sounds fun, the AMD 1.8 is fine, the minimum is 1.7 Intel, so ur AMD will fun just fine, the only thing is that if u say that ur gonna get an new CPU then, if i were you, ide check if ur PC supports ddr\ddr2 ram and if so then invest in ram, CPU swapping in never a relay good idea, they have amny fine pins and other such and allthough can be changed properly you could end up buggering the socket or the CPU (and if u get another mother board later on then you will have to switch the CPU and risk buggering it or u mihgt have to get a new one cuz the sockets dont match up. if ya wanna do anything, i would hang on and do stuff at the same time (new CPU, new MB [mother board] and new RAM) but what you have sounds fine, the only thing is you might be getting GFx lagg with that card as BF2 is gonna pump cards hard :shock: cuz u see ur GFx card has to do so much more cuz the levels are bigger and there will be more players and better renders and.......... anyhoo that will run it fine, i just hope that i get my new PC soon :?

andy

[TiG]Woden · « **Reply #9 on:** May 31, 2005, 04:32:55 PM »

quite a bit of bullshit been thrown about here. amd chips work with all verions of windows for a start

ddr2 is not faster then ddr1 only supports higher frequencies but typically at higher latencies regardless anyway of which is better the platform either supports it or it doesn't intel supports ddr2 amd does not.

with regards to a gaming platform amd is the way to go any number of benchmarks will show this and there is nothing wrong with a shuttle once you are aware of what you are letting yourself in for e.g 2 ram slots no pci slots available (when coupled with more new gfx cards)

with regards to the gfx card i would avoid anything from the x800pro or vanilla range (same goes for the x850pro and vanilla). they are all 12 pipeline cards while the x800xl and the x800XT and XT PE and the x850XT and XT PE are all 16 pipeline card and are the way forward

data

[TiG]valen · « **Reply #10 on:** May 31, 2005, 04:35:16 PM »

Don't listen to Dave. I have a x800pro gecube and its pipes are just fine! :wink:

[TiG]Woden · « **Reply #11 on:** May 31, 2005, 05:04:53 PM »

^^ lucutus above you've mentioned the price of the venice 3500+ but talked of a 3200+ which ya can get for 170 euro in the tray version off jes

[TiG]JimeatsLans · « **Reply #12 on:** June 01, 2005, 08:16:53 AM »

Quote from: [TiG]Valen

Don't listen to Dave. I have a x800pro gecube and its pipes are just fine! :wink:

Hes just bitter because his pipes dont function properly Valen.

Anonymous · « **Reply #13 on:** June 01, 2005, 01:57:07 PM »

Quote from: [TiG] Jimeatsmenu

Hes just bitter because his pipes dont function properly Valen.

It builds character

=Warmonger= · « **Reply #14 on:** June 01, 2005, 10:22:48 PM »

humm, the RX850Xt PE has 16 pipes, wooo!!!

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