tracert to the TiG Server

[[TiG]Devil_Monkey]

In order to chck your path to the tig server:
Start -> Run
Type in "cmd" without the quotes dummy.
In the DOS prompt type in:
"tracert 82.195.135.118" without quotes and watch the traffic bottlenecks reveal themselves.

[[TiG]Devil_Monkey]

ISP is Chorus (internet ireland limited sometimes)
Cablenet provider, Motorola SB5100.
Bufalo wireless 54G router via wired connection.
C:\Documents and Settings\DevilMonkey.FIREBASE2>tracert 82.195.135.118

Tracing route to boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

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Tracing route to boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  (none) [192.168.11.1]
  2    35 ms     8 ms     7 ms  10.63.3.1
  3    42 ms    16 ms    42 ms  10.60.1.54
  4    24 ms    22 ms    44 ms  iilgw-fe-0-1.internet-ireland.ie [217.78.0.1]
  5    40 ms    16 ms    16 ms  fe-0-0-3-2.dub20.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.67.85]

  6    84 ms    83 ms    67 ms  so-0-0-0.par31.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.89]
  7   119 ms   168 ms   114 ms  so-4-0.core2.Paris1.Level3.net [212.73.240.177]

  8    99 ms    77 ms    79 ms  ae-0-11.mp1.Paris1.Level3.net [212.73.240.1]
  9    92 ms    82 ms   124 ms  unknown.Level3.net [212.187.128.42]
 10   133 ms    61 ms    74 ms  ge-9-0.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.1
47]
 11   179 ms   150 ms   102 ms  80.253.124.21
 12   225 ms   138 ms   164 ms  doc.hosting365.ie [82.195.133.197]
 13    82 ms    76 ms    79 ms  boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]

Trace complete.

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Tracing route to boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  (none) [192.168.11.1]
  2     6 ms     7 ms     7 ms  10.63.3.1
  3    17 ms    16 ms    31 ms  10.60.1.54
  4    28 ms    21 ms    23 ms  iilgw-fe-0-1.internet-ireland.ie [217.78.0.1]
  5    43 ms    35 ms    17 ms  fe-0-0-3-2.dub20.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.67.85]

  6    60 ms   124 ms    68 ms  so-0-0-0.par31.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.89]
  7    75 ms   142 ms   132 ms  so-4-0.core2.Paris1.Level3.net [212.73.240.177]

  8    75 ms    70 ms    90 ms  ae-0-11.mp1.Paris1.Level3.net [212.73.240.1]
  9   105 ms    63 ms    70 ms  unknown.Level3.net [212.187.128.42]
 10    71 ms    65 ms    65 ms  ge-9-0.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.147]
 11    78 ms    73 ms   108 ms  80.253.124.21
 12    88 ms    82 ms    73 ms  doc.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.10]
 13   147 ms   150 ms   191 ms  boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]

Trace complete.
So doc, what's the verdict?

[[GiT] Karma]

to france?

[[GiT] Karma]

this is mine.

Tracing route to boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    26 ms    25 ms    25 ms  rasf1nrp5.kingston.broadband.bt.net [217.32.11.1
06]
  2    26 ms    25 ms    27 ms  81.146.246.156
  3    27 ms    25 ms    27 ms  core2-pos13-2.kingston.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.40.21
3]
  4    26 ms    27 ms    29 ms  core2-pos13-1.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [195.99.120.1
94]
  5    27 ms    27 ms    27 ms  194.74.65.198
  6    29 ms    28 ms    27 ms  195.66.226.167
  7   108 ms   126 ms   108 ms  84.203.130.13
  8   109 ms   109 ms   108 ms  h365.stisp.net [84.203.138.14]
  9    40 ms    40 ms    40 ms  doc.hosting365.ie [82.195.133.197]
 10    40 ms    40 ms    40 ms  boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]

Trace complete.

[[GIT]Fairy]

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Dermot>tracert 82.195.135.118

Tracing route to boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     3 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  217.47.207.122
  3    18 ms    17 ms    17 ms  217.47.207.86
  4    16 ms    15 ms    16 ms  core2-pos1-0.edinburgh.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.199.2
13]
  5    25 ms    25 ms    24 ms  core2-pos15-2.birmingham.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.1
6.237]
  6    28 ms    27 ms    27 ms  core2-pos15-1.reading.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.16.2
34]
  7    27 ms    28 ms    27 ms  core2-pos13-1.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.196.242
]
  8    28 ms    29 ms    27 ms  core2-pos4-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.65.
121]
  9    28 ms    31 ms    28 ms  195.66.226.167
 10   110 ms   112 ms   110 ms  84.203.130.13
 11   109 ms   116 ms   111 ms  h365.stisp.net [84.203.138.14]
 12    42 ms    42 ms     *     doc.hosting365.ie [82.195.133.197]
 13    41 ms    42 ms    42 ms  boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]

Trace complete.

Both mine and Karma's are getting stuck on the hop to 84.203.130.13 but it doesnt seem to affect gameplay too much.

Fairy

[[TiG]Ranger]

not too many

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\fomuiri>tracert 82.195.135.118

Tracing route to boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.254
  2    20 ms    19 ms    19 ms  213-94-240-1.bas1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net [213.94.
240.1]
  3    19 ms    19 ms    19 ms  ge0-1.edge1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.155.8
1]
  4    22 ms    22 ms    19 ms  atm4-0-39.peering1.inex.dublin.eircom.net [159.1
34.191.126]
  5    22 ms    24 ms    22 ms  panama-inex.hosting365.ie [193.1.208.234]
  6    23 ms    24 ms    22 ms  doc.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.10]
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8

[Darkireland]

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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

Tracing route to boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    30 ms    30 ms    31 ms  bas503.cwt.esat.net [193.95.136.239]
  2    32 ms    32 ms    31 ms  vlan500.rt501.cwt.esat.net [193.95.136.124]
  3    33 ms    32 ms    31 ms  vlan53.rt002.cwt.esat-x.com [193.95.130.153]
  4    31 ms    32 ms    33 ms  ge0-0.core002.cwt.esat.net [193.95.129.18]
  5    31 ms    32 ms    34 ms  pos2-0.br001.inex.esat.net [193.95.131.6]
  6    34 ms    34 ms    35 ms  panama-inex.hosting365.ie [193.1.208.234]
  7    33 ms    33 ms    34 ms  doc.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.10]
  8    33 ms    32 ms    30 ms  boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]

Trace complete.



mine looks fine

[[TiG]Winters]

C:\Documents and Settings\Kermit (Muppets)>tracert 82.195.135.118

Tracing route to boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.34
  2     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  192.168.1.1
  3    25 ms    23 ms    22 ms  bas503.cwt.esat.net [193.95.136.239]
  4    24 ms    26 ms    23 ms  vlan500.rt502.cwt.esat.net [193.95.136.125]
  5    25 ms    25 ms    28 ms  vlan54.rt002.cwt.esat-x.com [193.95.130.161]
  6    24 ms    25 ms    26 ms  ge0-0.core002.cwt.esat.net [193.95.129.18]
  7    26 ms    25 ms    25 ms  pos2-0.br001.inex.esat.net [193.95.131.6]
  8    27 ms    26 ms    26 ms  panama-inex.hosting365.ie [193.1.208.234]
  9    27 ms    29 ms    27 ms  doc.hosting365.ie [82.195.133.197]
 10    26 ms    25 ms    26 ms  boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]

Trace complete.

10 hops, first two being to the router then the modem. My router has 2 IPs >_<

[[TiG]Devil_Monkey]

[Sings]What a difference a day makes...

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C:\Documents and Settings\DevilMonkey.FIREBASE2>tracert 82.195.135.118

Tracing route to boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  10.63.3.1
  2   834 ms   806 ms   844 ms  10.60.1.25
  3   128 ms   104 ms   134 ms  iilgw-fe-0-1.internet-ireland.ie [217.78.0.1]
  4   269 ms   223 ms   289 ms  fe-0-0-3-2.dub20.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.67.85]

  5   676 ms   810 ms   629 ms  so-0-0-0.par31.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.89]
  6   100 ms    73 ms   126 ms  so-4-0.core2.Paris1.Level3.net [212.73.240.177]

  7    82 ms    90 ms   133 ms  ae-0-15.mp1.Paris1.Level3.net [212.73.240.65]
  8   823 ms   841 ms   719 ms  unknown.Level3.net [212.187.128.42]
  9   157 ms   109 ms    82 ms  ge-10-0.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.7]
 10   817 ms   855 ms   766 ms  80.253.124.21
 11   152 ms   168 ms   204 ms  doc.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.10]
 12   123 ms    83 ms   116 ms  boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]

Trace complete.

[[TiG]Chunks]

what does this all mean?  im lost :?

[[TiG]Winters]

what does this all mean?  im lost :?

From the trace Devil did, all his information goes from Bulmers Land to Paris then back to Dublin to get to the TiG server. No reason for it, jsut some bad routing on behalf of the service provider. I remember with Irish Broadband, if you did a tracert to eircom.net it would go all the way through NewYork.  :?

[[TiG]Berns]

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Bernard>tracert 82.195.135.118

Tracing route to boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1   2 ms  4 ms  1 ms  SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 80 ms 77 ms 89 ms  rt-lohtg16.dial.aol.com [195.93.35.48]
3 60 ms 35 ms 45 ms  accessl2-loh-G6-0-1.proxy.aol.com [195.93.35.252
]
4 75 ms 52 ms 62 ms  pop2-loh-P2-0.atdn.net [66.185.143.77]
5 55 ms 74 ms 54 ms  so-6-0-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [66.185.143.90]
6 81 ms 72 ms 55 ms  ge-11-0.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.
39]
7  87 ms  27 ms    98 ms  80.253.124.21
8 144 ms 157 ms   130 ms  doc.hosting365.ie [82.195.133.197]
9 136 ms 148 ms   201 ms  boomstick.gaming365.ie [82.195.135.118]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Bernard>

[[TiG]Devil_Monkey]

Can I get a bit of help with this?

I appear to be dropping between 2% and 6% of my packets when I ping TiG and I think this is what is causing my sync errors with servers in Nam.
Ignoring my minimum ping of 100ms, this error stuff makes games absolutely and unquestionably unplayable.

I know it is my ISP and I've been talking to one of the biggest people within the Chorus NMC that deals with modems.
He knows nothing whatsoever about games and has come back to be with some questions.

Ar you telling me that the ping latency within the game is bad even though these pings are ok?  I am not a gamer myself so I have no first hand experience with this but I can appreciate it is frustrating to have it happen, however the main thing is to find out why this is happening.  If there is issues with the cable bandwidth then I can do something about it but if it is purely game server related then it will be a grey area.
  Can you find out from the game hosts how they handle traffic that is too fast / too slow, how do they balance the experience of their users, what is their policy regarding broadband connections.  If they come back to you will you foreword it to me and we can see if we can get a handle on it.

The info I gave him was tracert and extensive ping tests to TiG, 77CrEw and TS server.
All ping iffy and drop a certain % of packets.
I'm really looking at an answer to both educate him and move him past this question.

He's no tard but as he sees it, the pings are ok, loss is acceptable and d/l rates are fine so I'm the only one complaining and using my inside contacts from working in Chorus to reach him.