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Title: Auto Balance
Post by: Frustrated Gamer on June 27, 2005, 07:06:26 AM
Hi, your server would be the best in the world for me (good pings, all english speakers) But for one thing, why, oh why isnt auto balance on??
 
  As soon as one team gets a fair wins in a rowm, it suddenly goes  38/26 or worse, and its all over from there, and of course, everyone plays the "i am deaf" game even though you was just speaking to the other team untill you asked them to even up.

I have to go back to the official EA (france) servers untill something is sorted, because on a ranked server,  perhaps 5% of the people will actually swop teams in them circumstances.  I have emailed EA with this most obvious thing that they left out (FORCE auto balance on rnaked servers) and hopefully it will get added in a future patch if enough people complain.

Of course its the same on EVERY other ranked (64 player) server i have been on that isnt auto balanced, so i'm sure its only a matter of time.


P.s are u renting servers in the future?? for less then the $5 pSpM as i get awesome pings here.
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: [GIT]Fairy on June 27, 2005, 09:36:13 AM
If there is a TiG guy on then shout and they'll get an admin to sort it.  We'd rather let you gamers sort out the sides yourself rather then turn on autobalance.  Its a nightmare when decent game play is going on.

Fairy
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: ptegan on June 27, 2005, 10:02:25 AM
The problem with autobalance that I've seen is that it splits up squads. I'd prefer that it moved people that weren't already in a squad.
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: [TiG]Lucutus on June 27, 2005, 10:06:34 AM
Hi,

We don't beleive in 'autobalance' here at TiG.

Sorry.


 :salute:
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: ptegan on June 27, 2005, 10:28:22 AM
In case you ever do believe in it again....

http://www.shackbattles.com/wiki/index.php/BF2:Squadleaders_getting_teambalanced



Code: [Select]
In admin/standard_admin/autobalance.py, edit this area:

def onPlayerDeath(p, vehicle):
  if not bf2.serverSettings.getAutoBalanceTeam(): return None
Add:   if p.isCommander(): return None
Add:   if p.isSquadLeader(): return None
Add:   if p.getSquadId() > 0: return None

This should ignore players who are a) Are commanders b) are squad leaders c) are squad members. Only unassigned 'lone wolf' players are balanced. The p.isSquadLeader() is probably redudndant.
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: Disgruntled Gamer on June 27, 2005, 10:48:44 AM
Why dont you have auto balance on!

Why are you such a nasty man lucuts!

Ive heard about all your hate crimes against us poor Camel people.
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: [TiG]valen on June 27, 2005, 10:58:38 AM
Quote from: Disgruntled Gamer
Why dont you have auto balance on!

Why are you such a nasty man lucuts!

Ive heard about all your hate crimes against us poor Camel people.


LOL

EA servers will help you out m8.  :wink:

LMAO "lucuts"
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: [TiG]Lucutus on June 27, 2005, 11:05:39 AM
Quote from: ptegan
In case you ever do believe in it again....

http://www.shackbattles.com/wiki/index.php/BF2:Squadleaders_getting_teambalanced



Code: [Select]
In admin/standard_admin/autobalance.py, edit this area:

def onPlayerDeath(p, vehicle):
  if not bf2.serverSettings.getAutoBalanceTeam(): return None
Add:   if p.isCommander(): return None
Add:   if p.isSquadLeader(): return None
Add:   if p.getSquadId() > 0: return None

This should ignore players who are a) Are commanders b) are squad leaders c) are squad members. Only unassigned 'lone wolf' players are balanced. The p.isSquadLeader() is probably redudndant.



Nice, may do that in future.
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: Jackabo82 on June 27, 2005, 02:21:02 PM
team Bllance should be common sence tbh,you get  better game when its all even
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: [TiG]Shano on June 27, 2005, 02:29:42 PM
lol that person is really jally u n00bs:P
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: tig|Bosco on June 27, 2005, 07:24:24 PM
I'm usually against autobalance but I think in this case something should be done.  Just got onto the public 64 player server for the first time to find teams constinually unbalanced 3:2 or worse.  The kind of 'tards that switch teams when their side are losing have infested the server and are refusing to balance the teams when asked.
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: [GIT]Fairy on June 27, 2005, 09:54:14 PM
Yep I had to kick a few today for that same reason.  Better to stick to the 32 player.

Fairy
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: Kdjac on June 27, 2005, 11:23:21 PM
Fyi Autobalance also moves squad leaders and commanders, meant to only move Lone Wolfs but shockingly doesnt.



kdjac
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: [TiG]Lucutus on June 27, 2005, 11:47:55 PM
ah, disappointed with that python script so.

ta for the info kdjac
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: ptegan on June 28, 2005, 07:30:08 AM
The script that you changed isn't working?

It's supposed to as it came from the EAGames site.
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: Frustrated Gamer on June 28, 2005, 09:05:46 AM
Hi there, Im happy you took the time to read and reply to my thread  :salute:

  I understand not liking autobalance, and i am the same in almost all other games, but with this style of gameplay, taking the spawn points, it really is impossable to get anywhere when the teams go wonky, such big maps and can only spawn at one maybe 2.  

  When i typed this orignal message i had just spent about 1.5 hours on the server with teams of 38/26 and nobody would swop no matter how much i asked  :x  I suppose the stats make the problem so bad as i have never seen it as bad before in other games.

  Anyway, i respect your decision and please dont think this message is anything but expanding on my original post more, im not trying to disagree with you.

  Happy gaming to you all  8)
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: [GIT]Fairy on June 28, 2005, 09:15:33 AM
When the new BF2CC tool comes out then we will be more able to address these issues.  It will allow players to be moved from one side to the other by an admin.  Also if someone is being a real tard then please visit #tig.ie and let us know.  Thanks.

Fairy
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: Anonymous on June 28, 2005, 01:34:36 PM
I just confirmed with EA that the script listed above *should* work on all servers.
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: [TiG]Lucutus on June 28, 2005, 05:10:19 PM
Quote from: ptegan
The script that you changed isn't working?

It's supposed to as it came from the EAGames site.


I enabled autobalance AND that python script.

I've assumed from kdjac's post that he tested and it didn't work.

Can some helpful person confirm for me whether it's working or not before I ask EA for a solution?

Thanks,

 :odlums:
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: ptegan on July 04, 2005, 01:32:03 PM
I can't say if it's working or not. I played all weekend and never got moved AND was either commander or in a squad.
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: {Comrade}Macgyver on July 04, 2005, 01:43:48 PM
i play on the server some times becuse its hard to get a place but any way i have never been moved and sometimes the teams might be 17 - 14 or some thing like that and i have never seen a message saying anyone has been moved
it might just be that people are all in squads
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: ptegan on August 09, 2005, 09:19:25 AM
Why did TiG decide to remove the autobalance fix that stopped squads and commanders from being moved and only switched lone wolfs?

Just curious as I thought that it was a cool feature.
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: [GIT]Fairy on August 09, 2005, 09:26:54 AM
Next version of BF2CC has it in anyway, AFAICR.

fairy
Title: Auto Balance
Post by: [TiG]Lucutus on August 09, 2005, 10:01:16 AM
Quote from: ptegan
Why did TiG decide to remove the autobalance fix that stopped squads and commanders from being moved and only switched lone wolfs?

Just curious as I thought that it was a cool feature.


Should be back now, although, squad members can still be balanced.